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NASA · Aviation Safety Reporting System

ERJ-175 First Officer reported extending final flaps below 1000 ft. on approach into LAX after a distraction related to turbulence.

ACN 1986757 2023-03 EMB ERJ 170/175 ER/LR CRM Issues
Final ApproachPart 121

What is ASRS?

The Aviation Safety Reporting System is NASA's voluntary, confidential, non- punitive incident-reporting system, established 1976. Pilots, controllers, dispatchers, and maintenance technicians file reports describing safety- relevant events. NASA de-identifies every report before adding it to the public database. Reports are not investigated by NASA, the FAA, or the NTSB — they represent the reporter's perspective.

Pilot narrative

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On ILS [Runway] 24R into LAX right at 1000 ft., we put flap 5 in instead of before 1000 ft. We were stabilized on the localizer and glideslopes. I was following a heavy for [Runway] 24R. I configured early up into the final approach fix. After the final approach fix, it got a little turbulent so my mind shifted to the possibility of flying above the glide slope for wake turbulence. Due to this, I was distracted. Right at 1000 ft. the Captain put flap 5 in. I'm not sure if it was right before or right after. I asked if we should go around; he said we were fine. Being unsure, I probably should have just called for the go around. I decided to write this safety report in recognition of possible pilot error Suggestions include more focused CRM. We both missed it early.

NASA classification — Anomalies

  • Deviation / Discrepancy - Procedural
  • Inflight Event / Encounter

NASA classification — Assessments

Contributing Factors / Situations
Human Factors · Weather
Primary Problem
Human Factors

ASRS reports are voluntarily submitted, de-identified by NASA, and represent the reporter's perspective. The presence of reports on a topic cannot be used to infer prevalence in the National Airspace System. The authoritative source is the NASA ASRS Database Online at asrs.arc.nasa.gov ↗.