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NASA · Aviation Safety Reporting System

B737-800 Captain reported encountering wake turbulence while 8 miles in trail of another heavy aircraft on descent into MIA.

ACN 2024399 2023-08 B737-800 Wake Turbulence Encounters
DescentPart 121

What is ASRS?

The Aviation Safety Reporting System is NASA's voluntary, confidential, non- punitive incident-reporting system, established 1976. Pilots, controllers, dispatchers, and maintenance technicians file reports describing safety- relevant events. NASA de-identifies every report before adding it to the public database. Reports are not investigated by NASA, the FAA, or the NTSB — they represent the reporter's perspective.

Pilot narrative

Verbatim from the de-identified NASA record. First-person account by the reporter. NASA strips identifying details (names, company, specific time); anonymization placeholders are ZZZ, X, Y.

While descending on the CSTAL 2 Arrival, after a frequency change to Miami Approach, the controller requested we slow to 280 KIAS. I responded that we were currently flying 280 KIAS as assigned by the previous controller. When the ATC explained that we were following Aircraft Y 8 NM ahead, we volunteered to slow further as well as our willingness to accept a delay vector. We were told that slowing further was not possible as there was an aircraft behind us as well on the arrival and that a turn wouldn't be necessary. Shortly thereafter, less than 5 minutes, we encountered wake turbulence presumably from Aircraft Y in front of us. We maintained control of the aircraft but definitely encountered both roll and pitch consistent with wake/moderate turbulence. We informed the controller and were given vectors immediately. We then made a PA to the passengers explaining what happened. Everyone was already seated as we had prepared the cabin for landing earlier. We landed uneventfully. No one was injured to our knowledge. Everyone seemed fine as I said goodbye to the passengers as they disembarked. Tight aircraft spacing, approximately 8 miles, on arrival behind Aircraft Y. Consider additional requirements or increased emphasis on adherence to aircraft spacing requirements/regulations to provide more conservative safety margins... i.e., increase aircraft spacing all phases of flight.

NASA classification — Anomalies

  • ATC Issue
  • Inflight Event / Encounter

NASA classification — Assessments

Contributing Factors / Situations
Environment - Non Weather Related · Procedure
Primary Problem
Procedure

ASRS reports are voluntarily submitted, de-identified by NASA, and represent the reporter's perspective. The presence of reports on a topic cannot be used to infer prevalence in the National Airspace System. The authoritative source is the NASA ASRS Database Online at asrs.arc.nasa.gov ↗.