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NASA · Aviation Safety Reporting System

PA-28 fight Instructor reported a NMAC event during takeoff with a landing aircraft. The landing aircraft executed a go around with "zero offset" which promoted the flight Instructor to call for an early crosswind to provide separation.

ACN 2053718 2023-11 PA-28 Cherokee/Archer/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior Near Midair Collision Incidents
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What is ASRS?

The Aviation Safety Reporting System is NASA's voluntary, confidential, non- punitive incident-reporting system, established 1976. Pilots, controllers, dispatchers, and maintenance technicians file reports describing safety- relevant events. NASA de-identifies every report before adding it to the public database. Reports are not investigated by NASA, the FAA, or the NTSB — they represent the reporter's perspective.

Pilot narrative

Verbatim from the de-identified NASA record. First-person account by the reporter. NASA strips identifying details (names, company, specific time); anonymization placeholders are ZZZ, X, Y.

My student and I were practicing landings at ZZZ, making normal radio calls for an uncontrolled airport. As part of the radio calls, we would specify type landing as a stop & go. About midway through practicing landings, the event occurred. While on the go during a stop & go, Aircraft Y asked us if we were doing a touch & or a full-stop. They called a go- around and we were climbing out on the initial portion of the climb-out. Aircraft Y had zero offset, and historical ADS-B records indicate 300 feet separation, but ADS-B indications in the aircraft indicated as close as a "+2" indication. I tried looking for the traffic, but could not make visual. I called for an early crosswind.

NASA classification — Anomalies

  • Conflict
  • Deviation / Discrepancy - Procedural

NASA classification — Assessments

Contributing Factors / Situations
Human Factors · Procedure
Primary Problem
Procedure

ASRS reports are voluntarily submitted, de-identified by NASA, and represent the reporter's perspective. The presence of reports on a topic cannot be used to infer prevalence in the National Airspace System. The authoritative source is the NASA ASRS Database Online at asrs.arc.nasa.gov ↗.